Jean-Marc Gionet
Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Protection and Family Programs Sector, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Opening remarks
Can I get a clarification, Madam Chair? The deadline...?
Meeting 10 · October 30, 2025 · 15:30–17:30 (2h)
45-15 witnesses · 349 interventions · 15,494 words
This House of Commons committee meeting on October 30, 2025, studied the subject matter of Bill C-12, an act respecting certain measures relating to the security of Canada's borders and the integrity of the Canadian immigration system. Appearing were Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Lena Metlege Diab, along with officials Jean-Marc Gionet, Tara Lang, Aaron McCrorie, Mory Afshar, and Jason Hollmann.
Jean-Marc Gionet, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, stated that the department's assessment is that the bill's provisions are consistent with the Charter. He noted that the department is preparing to ensure enough decision-makers to handle the anticipated increase in inadmissible claims referred to the Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB), to implement measures making the system more efficient.
Tara Lang, Director General, explained that the bill's information-sharing provisions would close gaps in how client information is shared, saving time and money by giving federal, provincial, and territorial partners faster access to data to confirm identities and detect fraud. She also noted that the mass document authority could be used to mass extend documents, for example to health care workers during a crisis, and that in a cyber-attack scenario, the government could pause applications to investigate potential fraud.
Aaron McCrorie, Vice-President of CBSA, stated that the ministerial due diligence process in Bill C-12 would allow CBSA and IRCC to complete security screening before claims are scheduled with the IRB, creating a more efficient process with hearing-ready cases. He noted that data on removal inventories and warrants is published on the CBSA website.
Mory Afshar, Acting Executive Director and Senior General Counsel, deferred on policy rationale to other officials but indicated he could respond to legal or Charter questions. He did not provide substantive testimony beyond this.
Jason Hollmann, Director General, explained that the two new ineligibility rules—the one-year deadline and the 14-day rule for those crossing irregularly from the U.S.—are designed to protect the asylum system from surges and deter misuse. He stated that the one-year deadline is a reasonable time frame for someone to apply, and that affected individuals would have access to a pre-removal risk assessment (PRRA), which applies the same criteria as the IRB.
Minister Diab stated that the bill is Charter-compliant, as assessed by the Department of Justice, and that the mass cancellation powers are not designed to block people in need of protection but to respond to exceptional circumstances like large-scale fraud, pandemics, or national security threats, with decisions made by the Governor in Council and published in the Canada Gazette. She confirmed that no asylum claimants are currently in federally funded hotel accommodations and that the immigration levels plan will be part of the budget tabled on November 4.
The committee did not engage in procedural debate, motions, or votes during this meeting.
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Jean-Marc Gionet
Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Protection and Family Programs Sector, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Opening remarks
Can I get a clarification, Madam Chair? The deadline...?
Tara Lang
Director General, Integrity Policy and Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Opening remarks
Thank you, Madam Chair. These proposed changes will close gaps in how we share client information, saving time and money. Federal, provincial and territorial partners will get faster access to this info, which they might use to confirm the identity of people who arrive in Canada through the immigration system, which is needed to deliver and give people access to a variety of public services and support their successful integration. They're going to detect people who use different identities to defraud benefit programs and other services, which will allow us to carry out law enforcement activities and investigations. We're also going to be able to share client information across IRCC to reduce the amount of information that applicants need to resubmit as they apply for different programs. This will lower the risk of discrepancies between case files belonging to the same person. It will make decision-making for the IRCC more efficient, and it will help us improve the integrity of our programs and better detect fraud.
Aaron McCrorie
Vice-President, Intelligence and Enforcement, Canada Border Services Agency
Opening remarks
We publish, on the CBSA website, data on all of our removal inventories, as well as the number of removals we're doing—
Mory Afshar
Acting Executive Director and Senior General Counsel, IRCC Legal Services, Department of Justice
Opening remarks
I think, in terms of why, because it goes to the policy rationale, it would be for Jason or Jean-Marc. If there are questions around the legal charter, I can respond, but in terms of the policy rationale, it would be over to Jason or Jean-Marc.
Jason Hollmann
Director General, Asylum Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Opening remarks
The two provisions are designed to protect the asylum system in relation to the potential for surges, given the volumes that we're seeing today, as well as to support deterrence for those who might be looking to misuse the system for reasons other than protection. The 14 days is designed to interplay with the safe third country agreement with the United States. Right now, that agreement is in place and helps to manage the asylum claims across our shared border. It means that anyone who crosses the border, in this case irregularly, within 14 days, would be subject to the agreement and returned to the United States. If 14 days have passed, the agreement doesn't apply to them. In this particular circumstance, we're trying to mitigate those who are looking to evade the agreement and file their claim after the 14-day period. In relation to the provisions for one year, that's a date that's easy to understand. The majority of claims are filed within one year of somebody's arrival to Canada. We are then trying to deter, potentially, the people who are looking to use the asylum system to extend their stay.