David Thomas
Lawyer, As an Individual
Opening remarks
Thank you, Chair. By way of introduction, I've been a lawyer in Vancouver since 1989. For 25 years, I was a—
Meeting 16 · December 2, 2025 · 15:30–18:06 (2h 36m)
45-16 witnesses · 130 interventions · 17,439 words
This House of Commons committee meeting on Canada’s immigration system featured seven witnesses: David Thomas (lawyer, as an individual), Alfred Lam (Executive Director, Centre for Immigrant and Community Services), Anita Stellinga (CEO, COSTI Immigrant Services), Nicole Guthrie (Barrister and Solicitor, Legal Assistance of Windsor), Alexander Brown (Director, National Citizens Coalition), and Jean-Denis Toupin (Engineer, Proco Group Inc.).
David Thomas warned of widespread LMIA fraud and abuse, citing cases where migrants paid tens of thousands of dollars for jobs that did not exist, and called for more rigorous background checks on immigrants, especially for terrorism and organized crime links. He argued that prioritizing French speakers in the Express Entry system displaces skilled workers like health care professionals, and that regional immigration programs are ineffective without enforcing residency requirements. He also recommended bringing back mandatory in-person citizenship ceremonies and questioned whether mass immigration has worsened Canada’s housing and fertility crises.
Alfred Lam described Canada’s immigration system as convoluted and unpredictable, with processing times reaching up to 50 years for some programs, leaving many newcomers in limbo and regretting their decision to come. He recommended a broad regularization program to clear backlogs and grant permanent residency to undocumented workers already contributing to the economy, and a consistent credentials recognition process to help skilled immigrants work in their fields. He disagreed with the notion that Canada has too many immigrants, arguing instead that the country has too small a vision for its future.
Anita Stellinga emphasized that settlement agencies are essential infrastructure for Canada’s economic success, but warned that 2024 funding cuts from IRCC are forcing program closures and longer wait times for language classes and employment supports. She called for stable, sustained core investment and urged the government to counter harmful narratives about immigrants. She also raised concerns about limiting settlement services for economic migrants, which she said disproportionately harms women, and about the planned end of the interim housing assistance program for refugee claimants in March 2027, which she argued would strain the general shelter system.
Nicole Guthrie argued that giving the minister broad powers to cancel applications or extend processing times creates uncertainty and contradicts principles of procedural fairness and international human rights law. She emphasized that temporary foreign workers, especially caregivers, need sector-specific work permits rather than employer-tied permits to reduce abuse, and called for a permanent caregiver program with clear, consistent rules and family reunification. She also recommended an amnesty for out-of-status caregivers who have fallen out of status due to employer misconduct or processing delays.
Alexander Brown cited high youth unemployment, long emergency room wait times, a shortage of family doctors, and low housing starts as evidence that Canada’s immigration system is mismanaged. He called for abolishing the temporary foreign worker program except for the hardest-to-fill roles, adding safeguards against diploma mills, closing asylum loopholes, lowering permanent residency targets, and strengthening deportation policies. He argued that the program acts as a subsidy for unproductive businesses and suppresses wages for young Canadians, and disagreed with calls for amnesty or a return to high immigration levels.
Jean-Denis Toupin described how temporary foreign workers are indispensable to his manufacturing company in Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean, where unemployment is near zero and 45% of his welders are TFWs earning $26.75 to $38 per hour. He warned that new federal rules will force him to lose 30 more workers over two years, reducing production capacity and forcing him to send contracts abroad, and he recommended reinstating simplified regional program conditions, granting three-year work permits, adjusting wage thresholds to regional costs, and introducing a grandfather clause for existing TFWs. He disagreed with Alexander Brown’s call to abolish the TFW program, arguing that regional realities differ and that his workers are unionized and well-compensated.
After testimony, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe moved a motion to hold an additional meeting on “Operation Citizenship,” a 1995 initiative to expedite citizenship applications before the Quebec referendum, inviting former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, former Minister Sergio Marchi, and former Deputy Minister Peter Harder. The chair initially ruled the motion out of order, but the committee overturned that ruling. Following debate and amendments, the motion was adopted to hold the meeting the week of December 8, 2025, with witness statements limited to 20 minutes per hour to allow for questions.
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David Thomas
Lawyer, As an Individual
Opening remarks
Thank you, Chair. By way of introduction, I've been a lawyer in Vancouver since 1989. For 25 years, I was a—
Alfred Lam
Executive Director, Centre for Immigrant and Community Services
Opening remarks
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Alfred Lam. I am the executive director of the Centre for Immigrant and Community Services. I'm also the board chair of the Ontario Council for Agencies Serving Immigrants and sit on the National Settlement and Integration Council. Additionally, I also co-chair the newcomer inclusion table of the Regional Municipality of York. It is an honour to be invited to address the committee today. A good immigration process needs to do two things. First, it needs to encourage immigrants to come to Canada, and second, it needs to encourage immigrants to stay in Canada. Unfortunately, Canada's current immigration processes fail on both counts. To encourage immigrants to come, we must remember that immigrants have a choice where they want to go. If we want more people to choose to come to Canada, we need an immigration process that is fair, consistent and predictable and has a clear path to permanent residency for all migrants. Instead, we currently have a system that is convoluted, with a confusing array of different pathways for different populations and rules that change without warning. We end up with tens of thousands of…
Anita Stellinga
Chief Executive Officer, COSTI Immigrant Services
Opening remarks
Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Anita Stellinga. I'm the chief executive officer of COSTI Immigrant Services. COSTI is a community-based settlement agency that has been serving immigrants, refugees and vulnerable individuals for over 70 years. Our mission is simple but profound: to ensure that every newcomer, regardless of language or cultural barriers, can use their skills, learn new ones and participate fully in Canadian life. The sector that serves immigrants and refugees is essential infrastructure for Canada's success. Immigration is not just a social policy; it's an economic imperative. Nation-building projects are framed as investments in the economy, and so it must be with the settlement sector. The sector ensures that newcomers can integrate quickly, find housing, secure employment and contribute to Canada's prosperity, yet, despite this critical role, agencies across the country are being asked to do more with fewer resources. The funding reductions introduced by IRCC in 2024 have already had deep and measurable impacts. A forthcoming report commissioned by United Way Greater Toronto, OCASI and the City of Toronto shows that agencies expect…
Nicole Guthrie
Barrister and Solicitor, Legal Assistance of Windsor
Opening remarks
Good afternoon, Madam Chair. I'm going to be speaking about the immigration levels. While we can understand the importance of monitoring immigration levels for any society—and measures to reduce immigration levels are important for any country—we would suggest that Canada is a vast country that depends on immigrants at every level to sustain the workforce, economy and demographics of the country. I deal with many migrant workers. We understand that agriculture has evolved and grown over time, with an expansion in the temporary foreign worker program to sustain greenhouses in other areas of the country. That is very important. Giving the minister broad powers to stop or cancel entire groups of applications to extend processing time creates uncertainty because of delays and misunderstanding. It's harmful, and it denies applicants the ability to be heard. It's also harmful because it creates uncertainty and contradicts basic human rights and international and Canadian principles around law and procedural fairness. We are concerned that this ability to extend processing time and reduce immigration levels has a significant effect on temporary foreign workers. There are significant…
Alexander Brown
Director, National Citizens Coalition
Opening remarks
Thank you, members of the committee. My name is Alexander Brown, and I am the director of the National Citizens Coalition, which is one of Canada's pioneering non-profit advocacy groups. Today, there are few issues that animate Canadians more than immigration—a system that worked all but seamlessly into the 2010s. David Coletto of Abacus Data presently has it as the number four pocketbook issue for young Canadians and number six overall. In a recent study from Environics, a majority of Canadians continue to say that there is too much immigration. Those who express this view increasingly point to poor government management as the problem there. In a recent poll from Leger, most immigrants want fewer than 300,000 immigrants annually. This is lower than outlined in the budget. It's not hard to see why that concern isn't going away. Our revised immigration plan doesn't solve for a sudden overcapacity problem. What we have in land, we lack in basics. There were 500,000 Canadians who walked out of emergency rooms last year without receiving care. That's data from CBC's Marketplace. That's 5% to 15% of all ER attendees. One in five Canadians is without a family doctor, according to…
Jean-Denis Toupin
Engineer, M. Eng., Proco Group Inc.
Opening remarks
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for inviting me to appear before you. I'm here to represent the Proco Group and Alliage 02, a group of 300 manufacturing companies operating in Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean, a region with a population of 280,000, located 250 kilometres north of Quebec City. My purpose is simple: to show the importance of temporary foreign workers to Canada's manufacturing sector, especially in the regions, and to explain the major negative economic impact of the new restrictions that currently affect them. Proco Group is a construction company founded in Saint-Nazaire over 40 years ago. It includes four companies that specialize in steel structure manufacturing and installation. We currently have about 500 employees and our sales amount to $163 million. Our projects include public and industrial infrastructure across Canada, such as bridges, ports, hydroelectric power plants, buildings and mines, from Quebec to Nunavut. In the past four years, we've invested over $18 million in capital expenditures, automation and robotics. If the labour situation stabilizes, we plan to invest another $10 million. Under current conditions, these investments have become impossible…