Linda Drainville
Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services and Financial Management Branch, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
No, please don't.
Meeting 3 · September 22, 2025 · 11:02–13:01 (1h 59m)
45-15 witnesses · 242 interventions · 14,121 words
The committee, studying the main estimates and mandate of Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC), heard from five departmental officials: Linda Drainville, Alison McDermott, Michael Bonser, Megan Nichols, and Tara Shannon.
Alison McDermott outlined ECCC's broad mandate under the Department of the Environment Act and key laws such as the Canadian Environmental Protection Act and the Canadian Net-Zero Emissions Accountability Act. She emphasized that environmental protection is a shared jurisdiction requiring collaboration with provinces, territories, Indigenous peoples, and international partners, and that the department's work spans emissions reduction, climate adaptation, pollution prevention, and biodiversity conservation.
Megan Nichols addressed several regulatory files. She confirmed that the oil and gas emissions cap is a cap on emissions, not production, and that the draft regulations projected a minimal impact on sector growth (16% versus 17% without the cap). She noted that the department received significant feedback on the draft and is considering the way forward, but could not provide a timeline for a decision. On the Major Projects Office, she stated that no formal arrangements with ECCC have been finalized, though working-level discussions have occurred, and that the minister will recommend conditions for project approvals under the Building Canada Act. She also confirmed that the 60-day review of the electric vehicle mandate is underway and that the removal of the 2026 target's impact has not yet been calculated.
Tara Shannon provided updates on conservation, noting Canada is at 13.8% of its 30% land protection target and over 15% for aquatic areas, with progress dependent on provincial partnerships. She highlighted nature agreements with five provinces and a trilateral agreement with British Columbia and Indigenous nations. On Bill C-5, she stated that ECCC's obligations under the Species at Risk Act and Migratory Birds Convention Act remain unchanged, and that permits will still be required for projects like Contrecoeur.
Michael Bonser discussed international engagement, confirming Canada's active role in COP30 in Brazil, which will focus on implementation and new nationally determined contributions. He noted that China remains a significant player in international climate forums and that Canada engages bilaterally with it to push for increased ambition.
Linda Drainville, when asked about budget cuts, stated that the department currently has the funds needed to carry out its mandate. She also clarified that a property in Sandspit, British Columbia, is not managed by ECCC and referred the question to Public Services and Procurement Canada.
Several witnesses disagreed with Conservative members' characterization of the emissions cap as a production cap, with Megan Nichols repeatedly distinguishing it as an emissions cap. On the consumer carbon price, Alison McDermott clarified that its removal affects 1% to 2% of reductions relative to 2005 levels, not the 8% share of overall reductions cited by the Canadian Climate Institute. The committee agreed to invite Parks Canada to a future meeting to address questions on wildfire mitigation and marine conservation areas.
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Linda Drainville
Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services and Financial Management Branch, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
No, please don't.
Alison McDermott
Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and International Affairs Branch, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
Mr. Chair and honourable members of the committee, I'd like to begin by acknowledging that we are gathered on the unceded territory of the Anishinabe Algonquin Nation. Thank you for the invitation to appear before you today. It is a privilege to provide an overview of the work of Environment and Climate Change Canada, or ECCC—our mandate, responsibilities, and priorities as we work to protect the environment and support Canadians.. In a few words, our mandate is to preserve and enhance the quality of the natural environment for present and future generations. This work is guided by the Department of the Environment Act, which gives the minister responsibilities ranging from protecting air, water and soil quality and managing migratory birds to coordinating government-wide policies on the environment. The minister also has key responsibilities under several cornerstone laws. The Canadian Environmental Protection Act helps prevent pollution and manage risks to human health and the environment. The Species at Risk Act protects wildlife in danger of disappearing. The Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act establishes carbon pricing across Canada, creating incentives to cut…
Michael Bonser
Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, International Affairs, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
Thank you for the question. My name is Michael Bonser. I'm the associate assistant deputy minister of strategic policy, international affairs. I'm sorry; by moving my seating position up here, I've probably eaten into your six minutes. The short answer is that we have a very robust approach to dealing with transboundary issues, especially with the United States. It involves provinces, states, indigenous peoples. It is based around our work through the ICJ, the International Court of Justice, as you probably know as well. I will take back the specifics around this question and we can come back to the committee with a stronger and more complete answer as to the question and the sense that Canada is absent from this. That is not something that I had understood, but I will go back to the department and my team, and we'll come back to the committee with more information.
Megan Nichols
Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
Environment and Climate Change Canada has not, at this time, been involved in such discussions. We would not necessarily be the first department involved in a decision on such a pipeline. Natural Resources Canada is usually the lead department for such initiatives, and then there's also the new Major Projects Office, which will be taking a lead in any new nation-building project.
Tara Shannon
Assistant Deputy Minister, Canadian Wildlife Service, Department of the Environment
Opening remarks
Currently, the secretary of state for nature is actually cross-appointed to four different ministers who have a role in delivering on the nature agenda. With respect to the Species at Risk Act, for terrestrial species, the responsibilities for the act rest currently with the Minister of Environment. Aquatic species are the responsibility of the Minister of Fisheries. There is a close collaboration between those two ministers on the implementation of the act, but that is more or less how the act is distributed.