Inspector Marcel Beaudin
Indigenous Policing Bureau, Ontario Provincial Police
Opening remarks
I'll be making it, sir.
Meeting 8 · October 29, 2025 · 16:30–18:35 (2h 5m)
45-16 witnesses · 109 interventions · 13,166 words
The committee studied First Nations policing and public safety, hearing from Inspector Marcel Beaudin of the Ontario Provincial Police’s Indigenous Policing Bureau, Chief Jerel Swamp of the Rama Police Service and President of the First Nations Chiefs of Police Association, Grand Chief Alvin Fiddler of the Nishnawbe Aski Nation, Inspector Michael Kreisz of the Ontario Provincial Police, Chief Dwayne Zacharie of the Kahnawake Peacekeepers, and Chief Steeve Mathias of Long Point First Nation.
Inspector Marcel Beaudin recommended recognizing First Nations policing as an essential service, providing long-term sustainable funding beyond frontline policing—including for specialized units and community engagement officers—amending Ontario Pension Board rules to allow OPP retirees to work for First Nations police services without pension penalties, and designating funding to enforce First Nations laws. He noted that he has declined leadership roles in First Nations police services due to funding instability and that officers in those services risk their financial security.
Chief Jerel Swamp said the First Nations and Inuit Policing Program funds services on a short-term, discretionary basis, preventing long-range planning and staff stability. He called for legislative recognition of Indigenous policing as an essential service, equitable multi-year funding with compensation parity and modern equipment, and a growth pathway for communities to establish new services with start-up capital and staged staffing. He noted that the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Canada and Quebec did not honour the honour of the Crown in negotiations with a Quebec First Nation police service.
Grand Chief Alvin Fiddler said his communities declared a state of emergency on gang violence after two shootings, one fatal, and that drug dealers charter planes, use road access and mail to bring drugs into remote fly-in communities. He urged Canada to come to the table with a much larger funding envelope, noting that Ontario doubled its budget for the Nishnawbe Aski Police Service after recognizing it as an essential service, but that Canada is dragging its feet. He expressed mixed feelings about federal legislation, saying a one-size-fits-all approach would be difficult.
Inspector Michael Kreisz said that poorly staffed airports in the north allow drug dealers to land undetected, and that his officers in Pickle Lake are stretched thin when they back up NAPS detachments. He agreed that coordination between OPP and First Nations police services is strong, with both sides routinely backing each other up.
Chief Dwayne Zacharie said First Nations police services police about one-third of Canada’s landmass and safeguard critical infrastructure, but are resourced at lower rates than mainstream policing, with outdated facilities, second-hand equipment and short-term funding. He argued that without Indigenous policing there is no national security, and that the cost of replacing those services would be far higher. He noted that Kahnawake Peacekeepers are entirely Indigenous, speak the language and know every family, and that the community has its own court and alternative dispute resolution program.
Chief Steeve Mathias said his community has been without a local police service since 2006, when Canada and Quebec gave a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum, and that the Sûreté du Québec now patrols with a punitive approach that erodes trust. He said Quebec is conditioning a new police station on his community agreeing to reserve status with boundaries he considers too small, calling it political blackmail. He said Canada only returned to the negotiating table a year and a half ago and acted as an observer, and that he may pursue legal action or media attention to break the impasse.
The committee heard a brief exchange on whether OPP resources should be used to confiscate firearms from lawful owners, with Inspector Beaudin saying focusing on organized crime is better bang for the buck and Inspector Kreisz saying he would need to see the framework and whether additional resources are offered.
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Inspector Marcel Beaudin
Indigenous Policing Bureau, Ontario Provincial Police
Opening remarks
I'll be making it, sir.
Chief Jerel Swamp
Chief of Police, Rama Police Service, and President, First Nations Chiefs of Police Association
Opening remarks
Thank you. My name is Jerel Swamp. I am a Mohawk from Akwesasne. I am the chief of police in Rama. I also sit on the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police board as vice-president. I'd like to thank you for inviting me to speak today. I'm honoured to appear on behalf of the First Nations Chiefs of Police Association, the FNCPA. We are the national voice for indigenous-led policing in Canada. Our member chiefs lead 36 first nations police services, collectively serving approximately 150 indigenous communities from coast to coast. The First Nations Chiefs of Police Association brings senior leaders together to share practices, mentor the next generation and strengthen day-to-day operations. We coordinate leadership development, mid-level supervisor training, wellness supports, governance tools and culturally informed specialized training. We also provide policy advice to governments and partners so that public safety decisions are grounded in on-the-ground realities. Modern indigenous policing in Canada took shape more than three decades ago with the creation of the first nations and Inuit policing program in 1991. Under tripartite agreements, first nations, provinces and…
Grand Chief Alvin Fiddler
Nishnawbe Aski Nation
Opening remarks
Thank you for allowing me to appear before the committee this afternoon. My name is Alvin Fiddler. I am the grand chief of the Nishnawbe Aski Nation, representing 49 first nation communities across northern Ontario under Treaty 9 and part of Treaty 5. Some of you may have heard that two weeks ago we were directed by our leadership to issue a state of emergency on gang violence.
Inspector Michael Kreisz
Inspector, Ontario Provincial Police
Opening remarks
Absolutely. It's probably hard to understand how poorly staffed some of these airports are. They typically have staff only when a flight is expected to come in. If it's in the middle of the night, there might be no staff at all working there. With respect to our relationship with NAPS and our local band security teams, they are very good. We certainly have intelligence officers who work together. I can speak for my communities of North Caribou Lake, Wapekeka and KI, in that we have close relationships with our band security. They are doing checks at their airports. When they are intercepting drugs, they're alerting us immediately. Officers are attending and laying a charge, but I do agree with Grand Chief Fiddler that it is complicated. For instance, north of Pick Lake, we have an airport that's in the middle of nowhere. There's no staff there whatsoever. You can charter a plane and land in some of these areas completely undetected.
Chief Dwayne Zacharie
Chief Peacekeeper, Kahnawake Peacekeepers
Opening remarks
Good afternoon. Thank you for the invitation. For nearly 30 years, I've served my community, providing services and making sure the community is safe and secure. In my estimation, without first nations policing, there's no such thing as national security in this country. All of Canada sits on indigenous land. Indigenous police services safeguard critical infrastructure. They uphold the rule of law across the regions they police together. At this moment, there are 36 self-administered first nations indigenous police services, and they are policing about one-third of the country's landmass. That's about 156 communities across the country. Right now, they're all struggling. There are a number of different reasons why they struggle. At the end of the day, they're struggling because of inequities through the first nations and Inuit policing program. All first nations, one way or another, are providing services and operational excellence because of their local knowledge and their investment in their communities. Many of the first nations police officers live and work in the same community they're responsible for. In Kahnawake, our peacekeepers speak the language, understand the…
Chief Steeve Mathias
Chief, Long Point First Nation
Opening remarks
Kwe and good evening. First, I understand you're in Ottawa, and I want to welcome you to Algonquin unceded territory. I would have much preferred to attend in person, but for many reasons I wasn't able to travel today to be with you. I'm glad that I'm able to participate virtually so that we have the opportunity to share the experience of what we're going through here in my community of Winneway. I wanted to take this opportunity, too, Mr. Chair, to acknowledge our member of Parliament, Sébastien Lemire, because he got me the time that was allocated for me this evening. I prepared a brief. I don't know if I sent it to the right place. If it didn't come through, I'll be more than happy to follow up on that afterwards. I wanted to share a bit of what's happened in my community. I was a former police officer, and I served my community for six years. I went to training in one of the Innu communities. It was Mashteuiatsh back then. It was under the American police service. I served under that police service back then. I've heard testimony on how community police officers are having to serve the safety of their community by being all alone. I lived that back then. I was the only…