Jason Jacques
Interim Parliamentary Budget Officer, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Opening remarks
I do, Mr. Chair.
Meeting 29 · February 26, 2026 · 11:00–13:12 (2h 12m)
45-15 witnesses · 173 interventions · 15,011 words
The House of Commons Government Operations and Estimates committee met to study the Supplementary Estimates (C), 2025-26, and the OECD’s first-ever review of Canada’s Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO). Appearing were Interim Parliamentary Budget Officer Jason Jacques, PBO analysts Govindadeva Bernier, Mark Creighton, and Régine Cléophat, and Scherie Nicol, Lead for Independent Fiscal Institutions at the OECD.
Jason Jacques presented the PBO’s report on the supplementary estimates, noting $4 billion in new budgetary spending and $5.4 billion in voted authorities, with major areas including defence and a $1-billion repayable loan to Canada Post. He highlighted the OECD review, which ranked the PBO as one of the world’s strongest independent fiscal institutions, and said the office has already begun implementing recommendations, including a new communications strategy. Jacques recommended that Parliament consider legislative amendments to ensure timely appointments of the PBO and to remove the perception of partisanship from interim appointments, noting that the current process undermines the office’s independence.
Govindadeva Bernier explained that the number of organizations seeking additional funds in the supplementary estimates was relatively low compared to previous years, and that transfers between votes are routine but require parliamentary approval. He noted that the Treasury Board Secretariat could not provide a breakdown of CBC funding between English and French services, and that a $1.5-billion reduction in old age security forecasts was attributed to higher senior incomes, not demographic changes.
Mark Creighton discussed the Canada Post loan, noting that under the Canada Post Corporation Act, the corporation must repay the government from annual revenues if sufficient, but if not, the shortfall can be included as a deficit appropriation in future estimates. He added that Canada Post has not been profitable on an income basis since 2017 and has not had a positive operating margin since 2020.
Régine Cléophat addressed frozen allotments, explaining that only about 27% of permanent frozen allotments reported in the supplementary estimates align with what later appears in the public accounts, making them an imperfect leading indicator of lapsed funds. She noted that re-profiled funds make up the bulk of the $7.4 billion in frozen allotments, and that the PBO could provide a breakdown by department if requested.
Scherie Nicol presented the OECD review’s five priority areas: leadership appointments, access to information, quality assurance, communications, and prioritization and productivity. She recommended that Canada set clear timelines for permanent PBO appointments, remove reappointment options, and introduce structured interim arrangements with cross-party backing, citing Portugal’s 60-day advance appointment rule and Ontario’s model of an internal successor. She also noted that the PBO’s high media visibility requires strong legislative safeguards to protect perceived neutrality, though no stakeholders questioned its non-partisanship.
The committee also discussed defence spending, with Jacques noting that moving from 2% to 5% of GDP on NATO commitments would represent a substantial fiscal shift, potentially changing the economy’s structure. He said the government’s new defence strategy emphasizes domestic industry expansion and exports, but the PBO has not yet analyzed the economic implications in detail. On vote 50, a central contingency fund for defence and security, Jacques said it provides flexibility similar to past central votes, and it is up to parliamentarians to decide if the operational benefits outweigh ceding control; he noted that additional transparency could be achieved through reporting outside the estimates process.
No procedural debate, motions, or votes occurred during this meeting.
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Jason Jacques
Interim Parliamentary Budget Officer, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Opening remarks
I do, Mr. Chair.
Govindadeva Bernier
Director, Budgetary Analysis, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Opening remarks
Thank you for your question. In terms of the number of organizations, I must say I do not have the figures here to compare them to figures in other supplementary estimates (C). This year, the amount was relatively low compared to previous years. I tend to believe that, since the amount is slightly lower, the number of organizations is probably also lower than in the past. I imagine that, for a large organization like the government, good planning in real time is challenging.
Mark Creighton
Senior Analyst, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Opening remarks
Thank you for the question. I will respond in English. Under section 31 of the Canada Post Corporation Act, the Minister of Finance is able to “place at the disposal of the Corporation such amounts as may be required” for it to continue to operate. Subsection 32(1) of that same act requires Canada Post to reimburse the government, from its annual revenues, should there be sufficient funds available. If there are not, there is subsection 32(2) of that act, where, if revenues from the corporation are insufficient to pay back what was given under section 31, the Minister of Finance can “cause the amount of the insufficiency to be included, in the form of a deficit appropriation item, in the next estimates”.
Régine Cléophat
Analyst, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Opening remarks
Sure. Thank you for the question. This number was obtained by comparing the permanent frozen allotments in supplementary estimates (C) against the total permanent frozen allotments that you would find in the public accounts. What we wanted to highlight was that, theoretically, what you find in the supplementary estimates is technically a leading indicator of what you would find in the public accounts, and potentially what is about to lapse. Based on the figures that we've seen in the last few years, these don't really give you an indication of the permanent frozen allotment numbers that you would find in the public accounts. That's where that 26% average comes from.
Scherie Nicol
Lead, Independent Fiscal Institutions, Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development
Opening remarks
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. It's good to see you again and also to meet the other members of your committee. Thank you, indeed, for inviting me to appear before you today. As the lead author of this report, I'm pleased to present and discuss the “OECD review of the Canadian Parliamentary Budget Office”, published just earlier this week. I have followed the parliamentary budget office very closely since its creation in 2006, from the early days under Kevin Page through to the tenures of Jean-Denis Fréchette, Yves Giroux and now Jason Jacques. The institution has remained effective from the outset while steadily growing in stature. It's now one of the strongest institutions of its kind and ranks at the top of the OECD's fiscal advocacy index. Despite its small size, it has an outsized impact both in Canada and internationally, strengthening fiscal transparency at home and contributing to the development of peers internationally. The parliamentary budget office is not alone; it is part of a growing trend. In fact, we have seen independent fiscal institutions like the parliamentary budget office become a core part of the fiscal architecture across many OECD countries. In fact,…