Kasi McMicking
Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Sector, Department of Industry
Opening remarks
I will turn to my colleague, Mr. Arbour.
Meeting 20 · January 27, 2026 · 15:36–17:41 (2h 5m)
45-13 witnesses · 227 interventions · 13,981 words
The committee studied Bill C-8, an act respecting cyber security and amending the Telecommunications Act, with Minister of Industry Mélanie Joly appearing alongside officials Kasi McMicking, Andre Arbour, and Wen Kwan from the Department of Industry.
Minister Joly testified that Bill C-8 is essential to protect Canada's telecommunications networks from growing cyber-threats, which cost the economy $5 billion annually, and that it modernizes the Telecommunications Act by making security a core objective while giving the government targeted tools to address serious risks. She emphasized the bill does not allow shutting down services for individuals or intercepting private communications, and she expressed openness to amendments addressing proportionality, privacy, encryption, and clarifying that the bill targets companies, not individuals, while urging quick passage given Canada is the only Five Eyes country without such legislation.
Kasi McMicking did not provide substantive testimony beyond deferring to colleagues on technical questions.
Andre Arbour testified that Bill C-8 provides a framework to regulate telecommunications infrastructure, including managing supply chain risks like high-risk vendor equipment, and that it is country- and threat-agnostic. He disagreed with the need for judicial authorization, arguing that courts lack expertise in network regulation and that such oversight is not used in peer countries for this context, and he noted that personal information is not germane to the bill's activities, though he acknowledged openness to amendments on criteria for secrecy powers.
Wen Kwan testified that the department is focused on the security of infrastructure, not on where telecom companies outsource operations, and that if risks are identified, Bill C-8 would provide authority to address them.
The committee adopted a motion by unanimous consent to study the subject matter of Bill C-15, specifically clauses related to public safety, with the Minister of Public Safety and the National Police Federation to appear, and to forward recommendations to the Standing Committee on Finance by February 26, 2026.
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Kasi McMicking
Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Sector, Department of Industry
Opening remarks
I will turn to my colleague, Mr. Arbour.
Andre Arbour
Director General, Telecommunications and Internet Policy Branch, Department of Industry
Opening remarks
Thank you for your question. I understand the concerns in this regard, but the purpose of the bill is to secure the telecommunications system. However, it is already impossible to create a decree to break the encryption of a network.
Wen Kwan
Director General, Spectrum and Telecommunications Sector, Department of Industry
Opening remarks
Thank you for the question. I would add that in the context of maintaining a telecom network, it is in the context of global equipment manufacturers. There are efficiencies to be gained. I'm not suggesting that this is the reason jobs are being offshored, but that's a consideration for the telecom companies to decide. What we are interested in is the security of the infrastructure. As some members mentioned earlier, if there are already standards they are following, and they're strong, we do not have any objection, because the objectives of the Telecommunications Act are being met. We leave that decision to them. What we're interested in is the collaboration of the telecom service providers with intel agencies and security agencies, to ensure that we have the best protection and reliability of the network in Canada.